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Defence Minister does not know if Tancos weapons were stolen or not

CatarinaMartinsCloseUpThe government does not know whether or not there was a theft of arms and explosives from military stores near Santarém.

Catarina Martins, (pictured), the Left Bloc leader, said today that "We can not have the Government saying that it does not know if there was or not a theft from Tancos."

 Martins has demanded some clarification from the Minister of Defence on the disappearance of the military armaments.

The minister in charge has stated, somewhat weakly, that there may not have been a theft after all.

"As we have no visual proof, no eye-witness account and no admissions of guilt, we can only say that the material no longer exists,” said Azeredo Lopes who already has informed NATO allies of the theft, but has released few details under the old chestnut of, 'not wanting to prejudice the inquiry.'

The CDS-PP has already announced that it will propose for Tuesday's meeting of the National Defence Commission that a hearing with Azeredo Lopes, scheduled for September 20th, will include questions the Tancos military base and the missing equipment.

Azeredo Lopes requested a report back in June when the equipment was found to have vanished from the poorly secured military site, a base whose security arrangements he considered as “reasonable.”

Lopes also indicated that the General Inspectorate has detected the need to implement three fundamental improvements, to storage systems, to surveillance cameras which have not worked for years, and to information systems and their management.

This means, said Lopes, "to have an instantaneous, up-to-date knowledge of everything that is in the stores to avoid in the future what happened at Tancos."

Among the weapons listed as missing are:

  • 1,450 9mm ammunition cartridges
  • 150 hand grenades
  • 44 anti-tank grenades
  • 18 tear gas grenades
  • 102 explosive charges
  • 264 pieces of plastic explosive

 

 

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Comments  

+4 #6 Denby 2017-09-12 22:36
History man,
What are you on!
I would suggest that you cease taking it as it leaving you delusional.
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-5 #5 Historyman 2017-09-12 17:43
Pay attention guys ! The BBC is onto this windfall of armaments for terrorists (it is the BBC's list in the article above, the Spanish apparently have a much longer list of missing stuff) - so Lisbon must listen. Not sweep it under the carpet.

To the British MOD, one of the joys of NOT being in the European Army is that finally - after x centuries of unremitting hostility as the UK's longest ally, Portugal is attaching itself to the Euro Army. Sure us Brits will meet with the Portuguese at NATO events but we can insist on being in action on the front line if there are any hostilities. Well away from the Portuguese back in the rear directing traffic.

Now the Portuguese can direct their energies towards weakening the EuroArmy - not us anymore. So no more Armada type attacks on us by the Portuguese, Napoleonic Declarations of War, assisting whoever was our enemy of the moment. With the Brexit bonus on top of this - the UK will be free !
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-4 #4 sebby 2017-09-12 10:52
[Quoting Ed:
Quoting Peter Booker:
I do not understand this article. If the material has disappeared, and the army does not know where it is, it must have been removed illegally, i.e. stolen.

A major question is: why were the security cameras not working? Was the fault due to inefficiency, or was there a budgetary reason? If someone would not spend money on repairs to the cameras, then that person should be in the dock.

The Minster is suggesting that this is an accounting error, that the weapons etc were not there to begin with. A pretty feeble response, in my opinion.


Basically, the weapons had been stolen ages before(by someone in the establishment) and the only reason it was found out was because somebody noticed it missing, after someone else tried to steal from tancos. Its so sad, thats its actually funny!!!!
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-1 #3 Ed 2017-09-12 07:37
Quoting Peter Booker:
I do not understand this article. If the material has disappeared, and the army does not know where it is, it must have been removed illegally, i.e. stolen.

A major question is: why were the security cameras not working? Was the fault due to inefficiency, or was there a budgetary reason? If someone would not spend money on repairs to the cameras, then that person should be in the dock.

The Minster is suggesting that this is an accounting error, that the weapons etc were not there to begin with. A pretty feeble response, in my opinion.
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+2 #2 Peter Booker 2017-09-12 07:36
I do not understand this article. If the material has disappeared, and the army does not know where it is, it must have been removed illegally, i.e. stolen.

A major question is: why were the security cameras not working? Was the fault due to inefficiency, or was there a budgetary reason? If someone would not spend money on repairs to the cameras, then that person should be in the dock.
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-3 #1 Charly 2017-09-11 21:57
It's only a small detail.... one better forget it. These arms left the country already a long time ago.
This is Portugal, isn't it ?
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