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Backlash against French moving to Portugal for tax reasons

bemVindoThe French public has cottoned on to the inequality demonstrated by Portugal’s Non Habitual Resident scheme as applied to many nationals who choose to live in Portugal and pay zero tax on their pension income.

Opinions and proposals shared on the "big debate" website - an initiative by French President Emmanuel Macron in response to "yellow vests" movement - call those French citizens who are enjoying a ten year tax exemption in Portugal "tax exiles"living in a "fiscal Eldorado.”

There are calls to end the tax exemption regime granted to French retired in Portugal and other countries where retirees pay little or no tax.

The tax regime for Non Habitual Residents was created in Portugal in 2009 with the aim of attracting high-income and high-value professionals to the country, offering income tax exemption to pensioners and a reduced tax rate of 20% on work income.

"Retired tax exiles who have been living in Portugal for six months continue to receive their pensions from public bodies. It is easy to identify them. However, they continue to come for treatment in France for free although they no longer contribute to our social security system. They should have to pay the actual prices for the medical treatments they receive," wrote one citizen.

This and other suggestions were received between January and mid-March and will be analysed by the Macron Government.

Another proposal is to sanction those who move to Portugal or other countries that promote tax exemptions, with a 50% cut in their French pensions.

"They impoverish France. It is a real scandal and a proof of a great selfishness," another user suggested on the official website.

"It is important to open a debate without taboo on this device, which leads to a double exemption of French pensioners who move to Portugal. This double exemption means that states are deprived of tax revenues and promote unfair competition between the member states of the European Union," wrote another user.

The system adopted by Portugal, to attract pensioners, has been debated in France after controversial declarations by musicians and film stars who publicly stated that they were moving to Portugal because of the beneficial tax exemption scheme.

In 2017, Florent Pagny, singer and actor, said in an interview that he would live in Portugal "for tax reasons," outlining the advantages given to foreigners who settled in the country.

This interview led the Minister of Economy and Finance, Bruno Le Maire, to invite the artist to stay in France, stating that the Government was preparing additional measures to keep those with significant fortunes, in France.

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+1 #12 Shiel Pedro 2020-07-26 16:09
The pensioners who move to Portugal and other countries where tax concessions on pensions income are offered are criticised for abandoning their home country and reducing its tax revenues. The people who criticise should recognise that these pensioners were the high earners in their home country who paid the highest rates of taxes throughout their working lives and received little or no benefits in return. They probably sent their children to private schools , paid private health insurances and contributed more in indirect taxes than their critics. They are the people who built the health services of their home country and, if they return to use these services, it is most probable that they do so for specialist private health care.
It is time to consider tax concessions to pensioners in all countries. The pensioners have paid more than their fair share of tax throughout their working lives.
Finland,Sweden and France have behaved badly in overriding the OECD double taxation treaty model and the French rationale reflects a mockery of the law, a travesty of justice and a perversion of language.
+1 #11 Darcy 2019-04-14 01:00
Quoting Peter Booker:


Brexit is the result of the EU, not the EC.

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Brixit is the result of politicians lying to the british people and the british people been gullible enough to believe their llies.
+1 #10 Peter Booker 2019-04-12 10:36
And another thing: these incomers who pay no tax with the connivance of the Portuguese tax authorities. They impose a proportionately higher burden on those who do pay tax this country.

This whole area is the result of the refusal of the EU to align its fiscal policies before the agreement of the common currency, post Maastricht.

And I think that most Britons would have no problem with the arrangements of the old EEC (which were to do with customs and trade matters) rather than the newer EU. And it was the Maastricht Treaty which expanded the reach of the EU into other areas (like foreign policy and justice).

Brexit is the result of the EU, not the EC.
0 #9 charly 2019-04-10 14:43
Peter Booker, for Belgium it's simple: you have to pay your taxes in the country where you have your legal domiciliation and this follows also exactely the rules of the new CRS legislation.
-2 #8 Peter Booker 2019-04-10 10:07
Yes, Voodoochild, they could do that. But to pay your tax in Belgium, and then to move to Portugal. You are paying in the wrong place.

In UK, if you have a Civil Service or other government pension, you have no choice but to pay tax in Britain, and that is a solution which impacts unfairly on ex-government employees who move to Portugal, because tax rates in Portugal are so much lower. It also impacts unfairly on the Portuguese, since they have residents who are paying their tax elsewhere.

I understand that Finland, and possibly Sweden are taking measures to ensure that their pensioners pay tax in their home country. There is no benefit to Portugal there.
+4 #7 Chip 2019-04-08 16:44
Quoting charly:
CHief: will you please "translate" in understandable words what's your point ? Tks.


Chief's post seems obvious to me. Have you read the article?
+7 #6 Voodoochild 2019-04-08 15:29
Peter, It's the other way around. Portugal is not interfering, it is France that is not up to date e.g. It would only need to tax pensions at source, and presto, solved. You say everyone's tax system... Luxembourg, Belgium and I think Germany for example tax at source and from there don't give a hoot where you take your money. So everyone can stop meddling in Portugal's system by just fixing their own tax f'law's.
0 #5 Chip 2019-04-08 13:24
The French do hate a bit of competition don't they?
-3 #4 charly 2019-04-08 11:04
CHief: will you please "translate" in understandable words what's your point ? Tks.
+1 #3 Chief 2019-04-08 10:41
from my point of view, they should go home for treatment, at least people paying into the system here don't have to subsidise them

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