Measures to fight Coronavirus extended until mid-October

MEASURES TO FIGHT CORONAVIRUS EXTENDED UNTIL MID-OCTOBERThe Portuguese government announced yesterday that measures to curb the Covid-19 pandemic will be extended until at least mid-October, due to worries about the increase in the number of daily cases from authorities in Portugal and abroad.

As you will no doubt be aware, Portugal was returned to a state of contingency on September 15th, with this latest announcement meaning this situation will remain until October 14th.  Cabinet Affairs Minister Mariana Vieira da Silva stated “Numbers of cases have been growing for around five weeks,” adding that the government would re-evaluate the situation in two weeks.

For information regarding the current rules during this time please CLICK HERE. 

After initially being praised for its response to the pandemic, Portugal, now sees cases on the up, with 71,156 cases so far, and the health authority reporting 802 cases on Wednesday this week, one of the worst days since the beginning of the pandemic.

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-2 #6 Norman L 2020-09-29 17:55
Spectator: I don't need telling what message appeared on my screen when I clicked on the link, thanks very much, but as I said, that publication is not something I could read, even holding my nose.

As for the percentages, I have no idea what they're on about. I'm sure you're an expert, though, and can tell me what it's all about, and incidentally why you ignore the false negatives and only worry about false positives. By the way, the WHO reckons that things are being under-reported.
+1 #5 Steve 2020-09-29 08:39
Quoting Norman L:
The Spectator link is behind a paywall
Not true! It's freely available to those who want to read it.

Quoting Norman L:
2.3% doesn't seem that bad to me, anyway. 100% success in anything is something to aspire to, but it's rarely achieved.
You don't understand what the 2.3% error rate represents. 57,500 false positives out of 71,156 positives in Portugal means 80% of those tested positive is a false positive. If you read what Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Michael Yeadon's written you would understand why and also understand why I think the 2.3% error rate is probably too low.
-4 #4 Norman L 2020-09-28 15:20
The Spectator link is behind a paywall, and not even the possibility of a month's access free of charge would induce me to read anything from Mmes Gove and Cummings' stablemates.
I've read the Yeadon thing before: not impressed. 'lockdownsceptics.org/lies.. etc' doesn't encourage me to reread another piece ignoring what's happening in hospitals.
The UK government publication seems neutral to my small brain, and funnily enough it's just as concerned about false negatives as false positives.
For false positives I can't help wondering why you gratuitously add after 2.3% the words 'probably too low'. I can't find that comment anywhere in the article, so I assume you just thought it might look good. 2.3% doesn't seem that bad to me, anyway. 100% success in anything is something to aspire to, but it's rarely achieved.
+3 #3 Steve 2020-09-28 14:43
Quoting Chip:

I guess you are under 60 Steve. Maybe very much under 60 given your failure to grasp the situation.

A million dead worldwide now, and still you think it's a hoax.


Thank you Chip for once again reminding us of the exaggerated number of reported deaths. Just like JC, the media and gov authorities post numbers without any context.
As for my age and whether I think it's a hoax or not it's irrelevant as so are most of your comments on this issue.
Try comment on the links I posted and if you disagree with the message take it up with Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Michael Yeadon.
-6 #2 Chip 2020-09-28 11:27
Quoting Steve:
Measures to fight a dead horse more likely!

According to this UK gov document false positives for the RT-PCR test has a median of 2.3%(probably too low).
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/895843/S0519_Impact_of_false_positives_and_negatives.pdf

If we apply that percentage to the total number of tests done so far in Portugal about 2.5 million, we get 57,500 false positive tests out of the total 71156 which includes those that have died and those that have recovered. The true number of positive tests is very low at the moment.

I know this calculation is not 100% accurate but it does give an idea of the enormous amount of false positives.

More on the reliability of the RT-PCR test

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-many-covid-diagnoses-are-false-positives-

https://lockdownsceptics.org/lies-damned-lies-and-health-statistics-the-deadly-danger-of-false-positives/


I guess you are under 60 Steve. Maybe very much under 60 given your failure to grasp the situation.

A million dead worldwide now, and still you think it's a hoax.
+4 #1 Steve 2020-09-28 10:43
Measures to fight a dead horse more likely!

According to this UK gov document false positives for the RT-PCR test has a median of 2.3%(probably too low).
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/895843/S0519_Impact_of_false_positives_and_negatives.pdf

If we apply that percentage to the total number of tests done so far in Portugal about 2.5 million, we get 57,500 false positive tests out of the total 71156 which includes those that have died and those that have recovered. The true number of positive tests is very low at the moment.

I know this calculation is not 100% accurate but it does give an idea of the enormous amount of false positives.

More on the reliability of the RT-PCR test

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-many-covid-diagnoses-are-false-positives-

https://lockdownsceptics.org/lies-damned-lies-and-health-statistics-the-deadly-danger-of-false-positives/

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