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Portuguese pensions take up more than 25% of government spending

oldpersonThe countries which spend the highest proportion of public money on pensions are Italy (32%), Greece (28%) and Portugal (26.4%).

The figures, from the Organisation for Economic Cooperation & Development, show that the average proportion in OECD countries is 18%.

The proportion is so high in southern countries partly as a result of the economic meltdown they have endured since the financial crisis during which other state spending was slashed, according to the OECD.

But high spending on pensions was not limited to the poorer southern European nations. Austria, Poland, France, Japan, Germany and Spain were all well above the 18% average.

The UK, on the other hand, was found to spend less than 12% of its total government budget on state pensions.

Iceland spent the lowest proportion of its government funds on pensions, at 4.5%.

The data is from 2011 but was published only this month in a report which said that despite having substantially different pension systems, countries were having to reform their pensions because of the impact of the financial crisis and the need to reduce government debt.

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-3 #7 Smithy 2014-12-30 12:10
It is total lunacy to be comparing a social security system that dates back to the 1940's and which 'everyone' in work in the UK is familiar with ... with Portugal's and comments such as Delilah's.

Which tell us that a substantial proportion of the working population have never been in the Portuguese social security system. Although a number thought they were as they had been making the relevant payments but were defrauded.

Portugal's pensioners are having a 13% cut, dropping many to less than 500 euros a month. Probably less than what a UK public sector final salary scheme would be paying in a week.

This craziness of the Portuguese in not comparing like with like !!! As others have commented - yet more examples of their 40 year old PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) !
-4 #6 Peter Booker 2014-12-30 08:53
These averages are awkward friends. The figures may show that the British system is comparatively mean-hearted. Or they may show that Britain´s other expenditure is so far out of control as to dwarf the money spent on pensions. I suspect that the latter assumption is the right one.

It may also mean that Greece, Italy and Portugal will have trouble cutting expenditure without also cutting pension benefits. In a currently funded system, which is in recession, pensioners are right to fear for their future pension income.
-8 #5 Chip the Duck 2014-12-29 12:54
These statistics are a damning indictment of successive British governments.
-2 #4 Delilah 2014-12-29 08:52
Like Portugal itself - the whole Portuguese Social Security system is a mess.

Perhaps a 'real' Portuguese can comment to us here on what pension arrangement Salazar had in place for all citizens ? Or was universal pension arrangements an entirely new concept 28 years ago?

We keep hearing that - before the crisis - up to 60% of the Portuguese labour force were never on the radar for anything. Ghost workers. Paid cash and hired when needed. Or just subsistence farmers or working in the family cafe.

So it is only in the last 30 years that systems for paying into pensions have been established. Yet, we then often hear of unscrupulous Portuguese business owners taking pension payments from workers and not registering it. So no pension possible ?

Seeing many factories closing on TV with the workers outside complaining they have not been paid anything for x months.

Apparently half of the current unemployed get no support from the state - presumably because they paid nothing in.

The point being - with all these 'non-payers in' - the system is skewed when they later claim for pensions in their hundreds of thousands.
-2 #3 Laurinda 2014-12-29 05:42
They forgot to say that most big corporations pay no tax or minimal taxes in these countries, but they get large "contributions" from governments under the "guise" of growth and in the form of incentives, grants and inflated government contracts.

Then add to that the commissions on debt, and high debt repayment rates which eats at tax revenues.

And the stats may be in fact be totally different if above is also taken into account.
-2 #2 John Cuthertson 2014-12-29 00:06
The problem is I think in ten years from now maybe even less the Portuguese government won't have enough money to pay pensions so they will be cut which is very worrying for me since I've been paying into the system for over 25 years maybe its better to cut and run now before the country falls apart.
-2 #1 jon 2014-12-28 18:27
And the population is getting older, i know i am, wheres my money, i want it now.

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